Tag Archives: Joakim Soria

December 7, 2015

Royals Land Soria

The Royals reached an agreement with an old friend, Joakim Soria:

The Royals have reached an agreement with Soria on a three-year deal, a source close to the subject confirmed early Monday. The deal is pending a physical and will pay the former Tigers closer $25 million with incentives, MLive.com has learned.

A mutual option for a fourth year was included, according to the Detroit Free Press.

That’s more on a per year basis than Darren O’Day was offered, which may be a reason O’Day denied reaching an agreement with the Orioles. Also, whereas the Orioles appeared to be paying O’Day for this fWAR, the Royals appear to be paying Soria for his rWAR.

Soria would serve as the setup man for Wade Davis.

July 23, 2014

Tigers Add an Arm

It looks like the Tigers will get Joakim Soria from the Rangers:

https://twitter.com/KyleBogie/status/492122947411144704

Soria was throwing stellar innings for Texas, having yet to allow a home run.

Corey Knebel strikes out a ton of batters, but at age 22 has yet to develop control. Jake Thompson is a 20-year-old starter who puts up good numbers in A ball. Looks like the Rangers get two potentially good pitchers for a reliever.

December 4, 2012

Gambling on Soria

The Texas Rangers signed Joakim Soria to a two-year deal. The money is low, as he’ll earn a total of $8 million, but the contract length surprises me. Given Soria is coming off a second Tommy John surgery, and only last April, his 2013 season is a bit iffy:

That’s an important distinction to keep in mind for the purposes of forecasting Soria’s performance, because in no way is it realistic to expect Soria to recapture his previous bullpen ace form right out of the gates. Most sources seem to be pegging Soria’s tentative return date around May, which would give him roughly 13 months of recovery time; a bullish projection might have Soria struggling to get his feet back for the first 2-3 months after his return and grappling with consistency-related issues down the stretch, which is a nice way of saying that Soria isn’t the greatest bet in the world to generate good value out of the Rangers’ bullpen in 2013. Yes, he might quickly hop back on the horse with stronger numbers than what Nathan produced during his own recovery season, but I don’t think you can realistically hope for much more than middle relief-type numbers out of Soria in 2013.

So it seems the Rangers are hoping for a huge 2014 from the reliever, which would give them lots of residual value. Texas then has a 2015 team option.

With their great TV contract and excellent crowds, Texas can afford to take gambles like this.

April 3, 2012

Soria’s Surgery

Joakim Soria underwent his second Tommy John surgery, today, Tuesday:

Soria, 27, underwent the procedure, commonly known as Tommy John surgery, for the second time in his career Tuesday in Los Angeles. Dr. Lewis Yocum, a specialist in the field, performed the operation at the Kerlan-Jobe Clinic.

A second Tommy John surgery is often a tougher procedure, but club officials said Yocum reported no such problems. Typical recovery period ranges from 10-14 months.

I would think at some point a pitcher would run out of spare ligaments. 🙂

March 24, 2012

Soria, Saves, and Winning

Joakim Soria opted for reconstructive surgery on his elbow and will miss the 2012 season. The Royals need to pick a new closer, but how much does this role really matter? I wanted to look at team saves a bit differently.

A team holding a lead after seven innings sits ripe for a save. The following table shows the results of the thirty franchises over the last ten seasons when holding a lead after seven innings (late lead). The program calculated the percent of those games saved, and the percent of those games won.

Teams leading after seven innings, 2002-2011. MLB Percent with Saves, 41.76%, winning percentage, .867.
Team Games Leading After Seven Saves Percent with Saves Wins Losses Win Percentage
LAA 885 410 46.33 800 85 0.904
MIL 792 361 45.58 673 119 0.850
SDN 786 356 45.29 668 118 0.850
PIT 691 311 45.01 582 109 0.842
LAN 832 369 44.35 736 96 0.885
TEX 836 370 44.26 732 104 0.876
ARI 788 345 43.78 678 110 0.860
SFN 821 358 43.61 714 106 0.871
HOU 794 346 43.58 691 103 0.870
SEA 761 331 43.50 651 110 0.855
WSH 740 321 43.38 617 123 0.834
MIN 823 349 42.41 741 82 0.900
FLA 824 348 42.23 708 116 0.859
DET 781 328 42.00 661 120 0.846
NYA 936 392 41.88 858 78 0.917
OAK 834 348 41.73 746 88 0.894
TBA 759 309 40.71 641 118 0.845
CIN 752 306 40.69 644 108 0.856
KCA 702 284 40.46 565 137 0.805
ATL 863 347 40.21 765 98 0.886
SLN 886 356 40.18 785 101 0.886
COL 787 316 40.15 671 116 0.853
BAL 700 279 39.86 594 106 0.849
NYN 808 321 39.73 688 120 0.851
CHA 835 331 39.64 736 99 0.881
TOR 832 328 39.42 711 121 0.855
PHI 883 346 39.18 770 113 0.872
BOS 898 348 38.75 811 87 0.903
CHN 817 316 38.68 702 115 0.859
CLE 793 293 36.95 673 120 0.849

There are three teams that appear to indicate a disconnect between recording saves in these games and winning these games. The top team in converting late inning leads to wins is the Angels. They stand as one of the most successful franchises of the decade, winning the World Series in 2002, partly by introducing their closer for most of the decade, Francisco Rodriguez. Their .904 winning percentage when leading after seven innings ranks second in the majors.

The team that ranks first at .917 is the Yankees. New York made the playoffs nine out of ten seasons in that decade, winning the series in 2009. Mariano Rivera closes for them, and is regarded as the greatest closer in the history of the game. Even at an advanced age, he still consistently fools hitters. The Yankees, however, converted 41.88% of their late leads to wins saves, just a bit above league average.

The Red Sox finished third in the majors in terms of winning percentage with late leads, .903. The were at the opposite end of the spectrum in terms of converting those leads to saves, however. Their 38.75% ranked third lowest in the majors. Boston used Jonathan Papelbon as their close for six of those seasons, with Keith Foulke and Ugueth Urbina contributing as well. The Red Sox quite possibly had the best decade of any of these clubs, winning two World Series along the way.

These three great teams, each sporting great closers, each with a proven ability to convert late leads into wins, own completely different profiles when it comes to saves in those games. Getting a late lead, in general, is much more a factor in winning than holding a late lead.

The Royals, however, do neither well. The led only 702 games after seven innings, the third lowest number in the majors. They posted a winning percentage of just .805 in those games, the worst mark in the majors. Note that 40.46% of those games produced saves. While below average, that’s not terrible. They rank 19th, not that far behind the Yankees. I suspect the closer was not the problem for the Royals in that time, but the pitchers who served in the setup role. A list of pitchers who toiled extensively for the Royals bullpen in that time, you see a number of high ERAs.

A great closer can only do so much to help a team win. Getting him the lead, either by the offense scoring tons of runs (Yankees, Red Sox) or by having a stellar setup crew (Angels), matters just as much. The Royals have closer options, but the loss of Soria hurts their depth. That could lead to blown leads before the ninth, and less work for the new closer.

Update: Fixed typos.

March 19, 2012

TJ2, Electric Bugaloo

It appears Joakim Soria needs another Tommy John surgery:

General manager Dayton Moore acknowledged Soria might require reconstructive elbow surgery, commonly known as Tommy John surgery. Soria underwent that procedure in 2003 to replace the same ligament.

The need for another Tommy John procedure will likely be determined Tuesday when Soria undergoes a follow-up examination by Dr. Lewis Yocum, an elbow specialist, in Los Angeles.

“We’ll see what that reveals,” Moore said, “but maybe so. It’s unfortunate. Joakim is such a professional person, and he’s obviously hurting right now. Let’s hope for the best. If it needs reconstruction, let’s hope for a good outcome.”

Even if he doesn’t need surgery, it sounds like Soria will be out for a while. Now they need to audition a new closer. They seem to have enough candidates that this injury shouldn’t change the season too much for the Royals.

March 19, 2012

Soria Sore

Joakim Soria‘s sore elbow has the pitcher worried:

“Oh, yeah, I’m worried,” he admitted. “Since I’ve had my Tommy John surgery (in 2003), I’ve never had anything like that. I don’t feel it’s that bad because before the Tommy John surgery, all of my strength went away. This time, it hasn’t.

“So I don’t feel like it’s that.”

If the injury turns out to be serious, the article suggests that Greg Holland or Jonathan Broxton might take over the closer role. However, the Royals gave a cup of coffee to Kelvin Herrera last season, and the 22-year-old owns a high K, low BB rate in the minors and might do well in the role.

Hat tip, BBTF.

May 31, 2011

What’s Wrong with Soria?

I agree with Rany:

The data is clear that hitters are no longer being fooled. What isn’t clear is why. The Royals can go on and on about how he’s just having trouble locating his pitches, or finishing his pitches, or scuffing his pitches, or whatever excuse they’ll come up with today. But when a pitcher who has been an elite closer for four years suddenly can’t get anyone out, there’s only one conclusion. This isn’t a court of law: he’s injured until proven healthy. I have no reason to think that Soria’s hurting other than the results on the field. Frankly, those results are enough.

For now, Ned Yost has announced that Soria will take a breather from closing, and Aaron Crow will take over the glamour role. That’s all fine and dandy if the point is winning tomorrow’s game. If the point is to figure out what the hell is wrong with Joakim Soria, this is a massive fail. It takes a massive amount of stubbornness to not acknowledge that such a precipitous decline probably has a structural reason, and shifting Soria into a different role is not going to isolate, let alone fix, the problem. But then, it takes a massive amount of stubbornness for the Royals to have denied there was anything wrong with Soria to this point in the first place.

I need to start keeping track of declines that look like injuries that actually turn out to be injuries.

Update: Soria is having problems keeping the ball away from RHB.

May 30, 2011

Soria Won’t Close

With his blow save on Monday, Joakim Soria lost his job as Kansas City’s closer:

“We’ve gotten to a point where we’ll back Jack off,” Yost said. “We’ll give him a break, with a sense of getting him back to the closer’s role, but getting him in situations where maybe he can throw multiple-innings in less pressure situations.

“He had a rough road trip. I wanted to give him one more opportunity. I take full responsibility. That was my decision. That’s not Jack’s fault. That’s my fault. I’m the manager and make those pitching decisions. I wanted to give Jack another opportunity to see if he could go out and get over the hump.”

His walks and home run rates are up this season, and his strike outs are down. Something is wrong, so until the Royals can fix the problem it’s best to get him out of the role.

April 6, 2011

Last AB Chance

The Royals looked like they might win their game against the White Sox easily. They took a 6-3 lead into the ninth with Joakim Soria on the mound. With two out and no one on, the White Sox score four runs, the last two on a Carlos Quentin double, his second extra-base hit of the game. That puts the Royals up in the bottom of the ninth down 7-6. They get a chance to win their fifth straight game in their last at bat. They do have the heart of the order up.

Update: The Royals tie the game. They get a lot out of what should be two singles. Billy Butler singled with one out, and Jarrod Dyson ran for him. Dyson stole second, then Kila Ka’aihue dumps a slow line drive toward the leftfield line, scoring Dyson. Kila stretches the hit into a double to put himself in scoring position.

Update: That’s all the Royals get, and the game goes to extra innings. Fans are getting a lot of free baseball in KC the last few days.