Baseball Musings
Baseball Musings
December 05, 2003
Not Quite the 1980's

Alex Belth at Bronx Banter pens a thoughtful piece on what's going on with the Yankees, partly in response to Buster Olney's piece, and partly in response to the Nick Johnson trade. He's much more upbeat about things than I am. He quotes the 1988 Baseball Abstract and comments:


Does any of this feel familiar? Yes, the Yankees have essentially given up on developing players for the next few years. The players they have developed are now veterans. But the old Columbus shuttle isn't as frequent as it used to be. If this were the old days, Jeff Weaver's head would be spinning more than Jim Beattie's did. Yes, George is acquiring proven stars to lead the way, a ploy that ultimately failed during the eighties. But from what I can tell, the Yankees are doing a relatively good job of identifying their needs. They needed a right fielder, and are going after the best--OK, maybe the second-best--one available. They needed to upgrade their bullpen, and went out and signed Gordon and Quantrill (who are a far cry from the likes of Osuna and Acevado). They need starting pitching, they traded for Javier Vasquez.

I don't see a Steve Kemp or a Jack Clark yet, although if they sign Kenny Lofton he would fit that category just fine.


He also points to a John Harper Daily News article that shows Cashman still has power.

Where I would disagree with Alex's analysis is that the Yankees don't have to crash and burn. As an example of this, I'll point to Atlanta. Every year, Atlanta seems to be able to point to their weaknesses and address them. And every year (expect 1994) they've won the division. They don't let the team get old and stale. They improve with a combination of free agent signings (Pendelton, Sheffield) and bring up youngsters (Justice, Millwood, Lopez, Furcal, Giles). And they don't seem to destroy their farm system doing it either. If everything works out, the Yankees win the division again this year. But Jeter, Williams, Giambi and Posada become bigger question marks every year health wise. It doesn't take much bad luck to see those four hurt , and then where is the offense?

I agree the moves the Yankees are making aren't as bad as the moves they made in the 80's, but I think the treadmill is moving, and it possible that it will reach high speed very quickly.


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Comments

I think the Braves are a better comp for the Yankees than you say - other than Furcal & Giles, they haven't brought much up in the way of youngsters since the Jones-Jones-Lopez-Klesko generation that culminated with Millwood in 1998 - not much different than the Yankees. And yet they keep winning. (The one place they have always been willing to trust youngsters is their bullpen, but none of those guys have done much for more than a year or so other than Rocker.)

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at December 5, 2003 11:27 AM

Personally, I would have kept Nick Johnson and sign Millwood or Colon, two pitchers who are as good as Vasquez. It wasn't really a logical move because they could have got an equal pitcher and kept a probable future star. Plus, Giambi can't play defense. And that platoon worked well.

The Yanks don't have a farm system anymore. They keep trading away all of their impressive prospects and I guarentee this will come back and bite them. George wants all the top-notch players at each postion but could save money by grooming a solid reliever instead of signing, say, a Tom Gordon to a large deal.

Posted by: Ryan at December 5, 2003 03:13 PM

Exactly how long until Nick Johnson is a free agent? Is it possible that his first real contract will be back in the Bronx?

Posted by: Barron at December 5, 2003 04:07 PM

Vazquez is better than Millwood, and he eats up innings like Colon but with a much better K/BB ratio. And Vazquez is only 27.

Posted by: sabernar at December 5, 2003 05:36 PM

It comes down to which would you rather have?:

Vazquez
OR
Colon/Millwood AND Nick Johnson and Juan Rivera

IMO, I'd defiantly have the second choice because Nick is a cheap, young, improving first baseman. Colon and Millwood are both great pitchers in their own right and there really isnt a huge drop between them and Vazquez. They all can pitch.

Posted by: Ryan at December 5, 2003 06:24 PM