Sure, but what does his defense add per game?

And you're using a .411 slugging percentage for him there, which would be his lowest since 2002. I know he's getting older, but the switch in park should probably hide some of that. It doesn't seem like you're being fair to him.

Dave, I believe the question is whether the Phillies signed a worse offensive Third Baseman, or whether the Phillies signed the worst offensive Third Baseman. I am an avid Phillies fan, and I consistently peruse the Phillies Blogsphere. It appears that many were indifferent with the signing and instead questioned why Pat Gillick uses smoke and mirrors when he said that the Phillies were not signing a third baseman. Some, such as Beerleaguer, hated the signing, and indicated that the signing affected the offensive ability of the Phillies. Others, including myself, applaud the move. Now, the naysayers stated that this feels like David Bell. I disagree. David Bell cost the Phillies draft picks. With Feliz, the Giants get a sandwich pick. David Bell came in as the next coming of Scott Rolen. Feliz comes in as the next coming of Nunez's glove, with the same hitting statistics as the third base platoon last season. The people who hate this move believe that the Phillies could have acquired Joe Crede, who has better offensive skills. However, Crede costs 5.1 mil/season, and is a free agent after this season. In addition, Crede would cost the Phillies some minor leaguer. So, what is to dislike about this move? The fact that the Phillies receive a 3B who has four straight 20 home run seasons? The fact that the Phillies receive a 3B who is considered to have the best glove at 3B? The fact that the Phillies are paying Feliz less than other options and are not losing draft picks and or other players? The fact that the Phillies actually increased both the offensive and Defensive production at 3B compared to last season? The fact that the Phillies increased their bench by moving Dobbs, a left handed hitter, to be the top hitter off the bench? The fact that the Phillies now have options with their bench? The only negative people can point to are Feliz's On Base Percentage and low pitch count. However, if the fans take a look at Feliz's stats, he is more productive when there are players in scoring position, and he is a better hitter with two outs. Likewise, Feliz is a team player with the Philly blue collared mentality. So, again, I ask, what is wrong with Pedro Feliz?

I have to agree with Bob. I didn't like the signing at first, but after digging into it a bit more, this is a good signing for the Phillies. Not every team can have an offense like the Red Sox and Yankees where there are NO easy outs, and the vast majority do not. The Phils get a HUGE amount of offense out of their 2B and SS positions (I'd argue more than any other team in all of baseball by a fair margin), so they can take a hit at a spot like 3B. And Feliz will hit a couple of homers which will be nice...most importantly, however, he makes the managing of the game a LOT easier on Charlie Manuel who has been known to completely decimate his bench before the 7th inning (defensive replacements like Nunez for the 3B platoon and Bourn or someone else for Burrell). Far too many times there was nobody left to pinch hit in an extra inning game.
I like the signing...would've rather kept Iguchi and moved him to 3B, but this is a fine alternative.
Now...about that Phillies bullpen...

Put Feliz 8th in the batting order, and he probably won't hurt you. But because of his power, he always batted higher in the order for SF, and watching him was maddening. He literally has never seen a pitch he wouldn't swing at.

dobb's numbers aren't against lefties.

he's not a fulltime player.

the comparison needs to be with helms/dobbs v feliz/dobbs.

when including defense it's a definite upgrade.

get a HUGE amount of offense out of their 2B and SS positions (I'd argue more than any other team in all of baseball by a fair margin),

Any other team in ALL of baseball??? and by a fair margin???

Um....Cano and Jeter aren't bad.... I don't think there would be a "fair margin" there...

I agree with those who think the Feliz acquisition was an OK move by the Phillies. He is a poor offensive 3B but should be helped somewhat by a park that can maximize his power. I also think his defense at 3B is going to save a lot of runs. His defense was rated outstanding on 5 different play by play systems (PMR, ZR, RZR,UZR, +/-). Offense is probably more important than defense at 3B but I believe 3B defense is underrated.

My concern would be whether, at his age, he can maintain the same defensive performance. So far there is no sign of decline though. They gave up nothing for him. I don't think this is a bad move.

Feliz Has More Value for the Phillies than for Any other Team in MLB!!!

Everybody knows the glove is there. And nowhere is it more appreciated than in an infield with Ryan Howard at first. The home run park that is citizens bank park encourages the phillies to rely on groundball pitchers, a la K. Kendrick. Ever watch Pat Burrell try to dig a ball out of the corner? Dmitri Young could score from first. Feliz makes Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Pat Burrell and the pitching staff better.

His low onbase percentage is overrated. On base percentage for most players is a good indicator of their offensive value. But it doesn't work here. The Phils do not need someone taking walks batting behind Burrell and Geoff Jenkins, leaving baserunners on for the pitcher!!! They need someone to make pitchers throw strikes to Burrell and Jenkins, else face the very real possibility of a two or three run dong. Why do we want someone walking in front of the pitcher? Feliz makes the offense better.

One of the Phils better moves in recent years.