Baseball Musings: Manny a Dodger

July 31, 2008

Manny a Dodger

Manny gets traded to the Dodgers. Verizon refuses to fix my DSL so I'm blogging from my phone. More later.

Update: The Red Sox get Jason Bay.

Update: The Pirates get four players in the deal, including Moss and Hansen, and Laroche from the Dodgers.

Update: Most of this deal was to get rid of Manny, but the reporters on NESN say that the Red Sox wanted to keep Bay away from the Rays.

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3 way with Pitt. Jason Bay to Boston?

Posted by: SC at July 31, 2008 04:32 PM

Haven't seen this yet. Did you get your info from the GM.. of Friendlys?

Posted by: ryan at July 31, 2008 04:40 PM

ESPN.com just reported it. You scooped them by a lot. Good job.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3513383

Posted by: James Crabtree at July 31, 2008 04:43 PM

wow. Wonder how the Sox will feel about ostracizing their best player when they miss the playoffs. What hubris.

Posted by: pablo at July 31, 2008 05:15 PM

Yeah, pablo, hubris about getting rid of a player who shoves 64 year old men.

So who's looking worse, Manny or Verizon?

Posted by: rbj at July 31, 2008 05:19 PM

Holy crap... Man-Ram is the first legitimate slugger the Dodgers have had since Piazza.

Still not sure if this makes up for the Andruw Jones and Juan Pierre deals, for Colletti's sake.

Casey Blake has been pretty productive since we acquired him, too.

Posted by: Adam Villani at July 31, 2008 05:32 PM

The Dodgers are the biggest losers here. Giving away a great prospect for a two month rental...and you just know that either Kemp or Ethier is going to be sitting most of the time.

Great job by the Pirates.

Posted by: Rusty at July 31, 2008 05:55 PM

Red Sox had to give up Moss to get rid of Ramirez and Hansen. They get Bay. They should have got more.

Posted by: bandit at July 31, 2008 05:57 PM

I think some guys here are under-rating Bay. He's been very comparable to Manny with the bat so far this year. And on top of that, he's WAY better with the glove and on the bases. Red Sox upgraded left field here, no doubt.

Posted by: amos at July 31, 2008 06:35 PM

Bay is not 'way' better with the glove, esp. not in Fenway.
I think the Sox should have got more, bandit, but they were over the barrel. If they didn't *have* to trade Manny, they wouldn't have made this trade; but they did have to, and given that they had to this isn't a bad deal.

I don't see why it's a bad deal for the Dodgers. They get Manny Ramirez for a division race, and they don't have to pay for him. They lose two prospects, but they'll get two draft picks when Manny walks. Not bad at all.

Posted by: James at July 31, 2008 07:40 PM

The Dodgers only will get draft picks if they offer Manny arbitration. And that's quite a risk, since it would cost them something in the $20 mil neighborhood if he accepts it.

Posted by: Nick at July 31, 2008 08:10 PM

Part of the deal is that Manny agrees to decline arbitration, so the Dodgers will be guaranteed the draft picks.

Posted by: sabernar at July 31, 2008 08:45 PM

No Boras client will ever take arbitration. If the Dodgers get the picks. Nice move.

I think the 20 mil days are behind Manny and Boras and that's what Manny still wants. He won't get that unless he takes a one year deal and that might be a hard sell. He was pissed his options wouldn't be picked up and freaked. Not good. Good luck Joe.

Manny needs to know being Manny is now on the backside of things and the checks are too.

Posted by: ryan at July 31, 2008 08:54 PM

"wow. Wonder how the Sox will feel about ostracizing their best player when they miss the playoffs. What hubris."

Didn't Manny do about 99% of that work when he said that the Red Sox don't deserve a player like him and then ran his mouth about how they would never pull the trigger on the deal?

Manny wanted out of his contract and out of Boston, he was willing to tank the rest of the season to do that.

Posted by: Beau at July 31, 2008 10:17 PM

WRT Verizon, if you can afford it, their wireless data service is a nice backup if things fail otherwise. IIRC about $70/mon.

Posted by: Rob McMillin at August 1, 2008 12:49 AM

Incidentally, not a bad trade deadline deal for the Dodgers. LaRoche hasn't seen his power return since his labrum surgery, and the Dodgers get to look like a contender when their crosstown rivals are going all-in for Teixeira.

Posted by: Rob McMillin at August 1, 2008 12:52 AM

Apparently the Dodgers were also negotiating to get Maddux from the Padres, but were a tad too miserly in their offer for him. What a shame--Maddux is left to rot in San Diego, and the Dodgers lose out on a reasonably priced rotation starter for the pennant race.

Posted by: M. Scott Eiland at August 1, 2008 01:30 AM

Manny is obviously going to be the left fielder, so that's going to be the end of Pierre unless Torre wants to be run out of town on a rail--Kemp's stats are markedly superior to Pierre's, and Pierre can't play right field with his noodle arm, so Ethier should be safe in right. Jones is going to be out of the lineup for good unless he somehow shows signs of being able to hit for a better average than Rob Deer and with more power than, well, Juan Pierre. Between Pierre and Jones, the Dodgers will be paying over $25 million a year for late inning defensive outfield replacements--the most annoying thing about the Ramirez trade is that those responsible for that horrific, incompetent expenditure of money and roster space might wriggle out of being fired and completely unable to find work in MLB as they deserve, assuming the Dodgers manage to make it well into the postseason fueled by the bats of Ramirez and Blake.

Posted by: M. Scott Eiland at August 1, 2008 01:45 AM

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