February 13, 2008
Power Back On (Clemens Hearing)
I just got the power back on, it looks like I missed most of Waxman's opening statement. I did hear him read Pettitte's statement, and the statement of Pettitte's wife about the conversations with Clemens about HGH.
The yellow flower held by Mrs. Clemens is a nice touch. She appears to be playing the Maureen Dean role today.
Update: Pettitte used HGH one other time, stealing the dose from his father.
Update: Clemens is starting his statement with condolences over Rep. Lantos.
Update: Clemens says he's guilty of being too trusting of everyone. Clemens is pointing out no matter what he did, stay silent or strongly protest, people took that as a sign of guilt.
Update: Roger just stated categorically that he never took steroids or HGH.
Update: McNamee is up, and he opens with a statement that he injected Clemens with steroids and HGH, and inject Pettitte and Knoblauch with HGH. He's also expressing contrition.
Update: McNamee points out that his stories about Pettitte and Knoblauch were confirmed, and he's also telling the truth about Clemens.
Update: McNamee now says he injected Clemens more often than he reported to Mitchell.
Update: Alan Schwarz is in the committee room and filing report.
Update: It's about the children! No, it's about Roger Clemens!
Update: Rep. Cummings is questioning Clemens now.
Update: Cummings is telling Clemens how difficult it was for Pettitte to testify against Roger.
Update: Clemens said Pettitte misheard about Clemens using HGH. Clemens said he had a conversation with Pettitte about a TV show in which older men got back their quality of life by using HGH.
Update: Rep. Cummings is trying a trick. He keeps trying to get Clemens to say that he thinks Andy is telling the truth. Clemens won't fall for the direct answer and keeps saying that Pettitte misheard or misunderstood.
Update: Now they're getting to Debbie.
Update: Clemens doesn't remember the conversation with Pettitte about Debbie Clemens using HGH. Cummings wanted Clemens to be clear; did he not remember or did it never happen. Clemens says he does not remember.
Update: Cummings gets Clemens on the timeline. The original Pettitte-Clemens conversation was in 1999 or 2000. Clemens said his wife didn't use HGH until 2003, so when Clemens told Pettitte in 2005 that he was talking about Debbie in the first conversation, that doesn't jibe with what Clemens admitted.
Update: Rep. Davis is now questioning McNamee. He wants to know why the number of injections keep going up. He said he didn't keep records, but thinking about it the last two months, he remembered more and more.
Update: Davis asks McNamee why he never said, "I am telling the truth," during the taped phone conversation. McNamee claims when he said, "It is what it is," that's his jargon for I'm telling the truth.
Update: Davis is now asking Clemens about Mike Stanton noticing Roger Clemens bleeding through his pants. Roger says it didn't happen. McNamee says Roger told him it happened.
Update: Davis is getting to the Canseco barbecue. He's pointing out that McNamee's story does not match the evidence they've gathered.
Update: McNamee recalls seeing Clemens nanny at the party picking up one of Clemen's children as he headed for the pool, and Clemens showing up later.
Update: Clemens is asked how B-12 helps him.
Update: Roger said McNamee injected him five times with B-12, McNamee says he never injected Roger with B-12.
Update: Rep. Tierney notes in the past McNamee lied to investigators, both in Florida and to Federal investigators. He's now pointing out Clemens's credibility issues as well.
Update: Tierney is now reading Clemens's account of Debbie's injections. He wants to know why Clemens said he never had a conversation with McNamee about HGH when he did have a conversation about it over Clemens's wife.
Update: Dan Burton is asking Clemens why he thinks McNamee was coerced into lying about Clemens.
Update: Burton is pointing out all the lies that McNamee told over the years to newspapers.
Update: Burton just said he doesn't believe McNamee, and he doesn't like this trial by media.
Update: Rep. Lynch is talking about the abscess on Clemens's buttocks. The Blue Jays did have records of masses on the buttocks.
Update: They have an MRI of the mass, and the report says the mass was likely caused by an injection.
Update: A doctor says the MRI is more consistent with winstrol than B-12.
Update: The doctors and trainers for the Blue Jays at the time said they never said they had seen a reaction like that from B-12.
Update: Rep. Davis notes that Dr. Grossman, who examined Clemens at the time of the MRI, came to a different conclusion.
Update: Davis is pointing out that we know Clemens received a B-12 shot before the injury, but McNamee's recollection of when he gave Roger winstrol doesn't match the time period.
Update: For some reason, the Democrats on the committee seem to be going after Clemens, and the Republicans are going after McNamee. I have no idea why this would break down along party lines.
Update: Scheeler is being grilled about the Canseco party. Does he still believe the meeting occured? He won't give a definite answer.
Update: I would like someone to ask Scheeler why he thinks McNamee is truthful.
Update: Rep. Souder wanted the other witnesses here. He says the released depositions will be devastating.
Update: Souder is also discussing allegations that the owners didn't want testing and they should be investigated.
Update: Souder is noting that McNamee's slow release of information is usually what happens in drug cases. The criminal initially gives up just enough to stay out of jail, then something tics them off and more comes out.
Update: Waxman is now talking about the nanny. She said they her, Debbie and the children stayed over night at Canseco's house, and Clemens was there for some period of time.
Waxman now says that Clemens talked to her on Sunday, before the committee, after the committee had asked Clemens's lawyers not to contact her.
Update: Clemens's lawyers are objecting to Waxman's innuendo. Waxman says Clemens's actions in this regard are inappropriate.
Update: There's going to be a 15 minute break. I'll pick this up again in a new post.
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If she's Mo Dean, who on the committee will play Fred Thompson and say "what did they know and when did they know it" - oops, that should have been asked of Bud Selig.
I must have missed the report that Congress has fixed Social Security. What changes did they make?
oh, we were in the olive oil business together...
Maybe I'm just a very biased Yankee fan and am digging for anything in this. But I find it kind of funny that Rep Tierney from Massachusetts was one of the guys tearing at Clemens. I know it's nothing bu tyou never know.
Lynch / Canseco - wtf?
From Canseco's affidavit:
"I have never had a conversation with Clemens in which he expressed any interest in using steroids or human growth hormone," Canseco said in the affidavit. "Clemens has never asked me to give steroids or human growth hormone, and I have never seen Clemens "use, possess or ask for steroids or human growth hormone."
dueling medical records - if the needle is used, your butt is bruised.
I like how the congressman from the bronx met with clemens for 30 minutes and came away saying he believed clemens and mac was lying.
I know it's nothing bu tyou never know
WET KISSES TO MITCHELL BY THE DEMOCRATS....
NEWS FLASH...CLEMENS HIRES HOT NANNIES.
oops... 1PM ESPN ad..
casino ad where the man says "Dave needs a major testosterone injection"
The nanny contact was totally improper, and his lawyers were out of order. Luckily his DC boy is Dem connected, if he was from the other side of the aisle Waxman would have raged.
Roger appears to NOT have made contrbutions, according to fec.gov - but being a Texan he is a Bush supporter and friend of 41 and 43 - which has to p.o. Brazilian Wax - Man