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Baseball Musings
January 28, 2008
The Angelos Factor

According to Jayson Stark, Peter Angelos hasn't had a chance to approve the Bedard trade:

The same source also indicated that Angelos wasn't informed of the particulars of this latest proposal until late Sunday and that he won't be available Monday to confer with the Orioles' baseball officials because of a personal matter.

Given Angelos' long history of vetoing trades, one baseball man who has dealt extensively with Angelos predicted that "this could get more interesting as it goes along" if Angelos has yet to approve this deal.

It's a good thing Adam Jones has a big mouth, otherwise we wouldn't be having so much fun today!


Posted by David Pinto at 01:24 PM | Trades | TrackBack (0)
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Boy, I'd love to hear one report from the sporting press involving the Baltimore Orioles where the reporter doesn't go out of his way to take a cheap shot at Peter Angelos. So he's got a "long history of vetoing trades", does he? Well, considering some of the lame brained deals his GMs have cooked up he'd probably consider that a compliment. I think what bothers the PA haters most is that some lawyer with zero baseball background is proven right in the long run more often than the supposed experts, or the rumor mongering press whores who in reality demonstrate about as much baseball acuman as my neighbor's cat. If Angelos has had one major failing its hiring a bunch of GMs who were better at secretely bitching to the media than they were at running a baseball team.

So the bottom line of this story is that Angelos hasn't approved the deal because it hasn't in fact been presented to him for approvel.

Wow. Stop the presses.

Posted by: ShoelesJoe at January 28, 2008 03:31 PM

I think what bothers the PA haters most is that some lawyer with zero baseball background is proven right in the long run more often than the supposed experts,

Yes, as is evidenced by the continuing success story that is the Baltimore Orioles. I mean, sure, they've finished 4th 10 years in a row, but you have to applaud them for consistency.

If Angelos has had one major failing its hiring a bunch of GMs who were better at secretely bitching to the media than they were at running a baseball team

Shouldn't the hiring of competent GMs be a measure of baseball acumen? Because, by this standard, he's been a pretty lousy owner.

Posted by: paul zummo at January 28, 2008 04:21 PM

I didn't realize ShoelessJoe was Peter's mother.

Posted by: rbj at January 28, 2008 04:32 PM

I had an old baseball coach who claimed was related to Peter Angelos. Worst. Coach. Ever. That is all I have to bring to this discussion.

Posted by: Nate at January 28, 2008 04:35 PM

ShoelessJoe: Are you Peter Angelos in disguise? LOL

Posted by: Yamen at January 28, 2008 05:58 PM

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The Orioles haven't stunk the joint up for ten years because Angelos was busy interfering with his GMs. The team stunk because they went damn near twenty years without drafting and developing a single impact position player. If Angelos hadn't sunk a fortune into the team's payroll when he bought 'em in the mid '90s they never would have had the short playoff run they did. Unfortunately all he did was delay the inevitable decline due to zero talent ever coming up through the system. Unless its your opinion Angelos was personally responsible for the crash and burn of just about every O's draft class from 1982 to 1999 then you're blowing smoke.

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You mean incompetent guys like Pat Gillick, Frank Wren, Jim Beattie, and Jim Duquette? None of whom did squat to arrest the continuing freefall of the franchise's minor league system? Sure, the hiring of Syd Thrift and Mike Flanagan were huge mistakes that should have been avoided, and Angelos should be justly criticized for making them. He should also be criticized for delaying the rebuilding process for so long, as this team should have been blown up a long time ago.

But if Angelos is so bad why do pundits like Stark have to reach so far into the ether to find fault with him because he hasn't approved a deal that hasn't even been negotiated to its conclusion? Two weeks ago the same clowns were reporting that he'd nixed a deal that would send Brian Roberts to the Cubs. Of course such a deal was never presented to Angelos, but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good vendetta.

Posted by: ShoelesJoe at January 28, 2008 06:15 PM

ShoelesJoe, you obviously know nothing about the team. Maybe even less than Peter Angelos. Angelos has driven this team into the ground by driving good people away, hiring mediocre people, then not given them any room to operate. He's gutted the scouting and minor league system. He's insisted on this halfway stategy of trying to prop up the team with overpaid free agents to keep enough people at the gates. He's vetoed potential deals aimed at rebuilding the franchise, including deals for Tejada when we could have received value in return.

i will say that Angelos is willing to spend money on the team, and that the payroll number is always respectable. it's just usually spent very badly.

Posted by: wph at January 28, 2008 07:07 PM
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