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August 24, 2005
Bradley And Kent

Jeff Kent and Milton Bradley are not getting along. Given the two people involved, I just surprised it didn't happen sooner. There's video at the link that's worth watching as well.

A pox on both their houses. Kent has little credibility since lying about his motorcycle accident. Bradley is very sensitive to criticism. They're not the first teammates to hate each other and they won't be the last. It really doesn't matter as long as the team wins, which the Dodgers aren't doing right now.

There is one thing I'd like to comment on, however. A quote from Bradley:

"Me being an African-American is the most important thing to me - more important than baseball," said the 27-year-old center fielder, whose voice never went beyond his normal speaking level. "White people never want to see race - with anything. But there's race involved in baseball. That's why there's less than 9 percent African-American representation in the game. I'm one of the few African-Americans that starts here."

I also don't see what wrong with 9% of ball players being African-Americans. If 25% of ballplayers are Hispanic, that means less than 75% of ball players are American of some type (non-Americans other than Hispanics make up the rest). So if 9% of all players are African American, then 12% of American born players are African American, which is very close to the US census figure of 13%. In other words, if I'm being color blind about choosing players, I'd expect to wind up with between 12 and 14% African Americans among my American players. Now, unless you believe that African Americans are inherently better ballplayers than Americans of other origins, then I don't see the problem.

If anyone should complain it's the Asian-Americans. They make up 4% of the population, meaning that there should be about 30 Asian-American in the majors. As far as I know, the majority of Asians in baseball right now are foreign citizens.

Am I saying there's no racism in baseball? Of course not. I have no doubt there are racist people in the game. I wouldn't be surprised if one of you could find patterns of salaries, trades, minor league promotions, etc. to argue your point. But it's not shown in the percentage of African Americans in the game.

Update: See this post for an update on the percentage of Hispanic players in the league and an updated calculation based on that.


Posted by David Pinto at 09:43 AM | Baseball Jerks | TrackBack (1)
Comments

It would seem to me that in the clubhouse, between players, there should be [for the most part] less racism than elsewhere in the country. I agree with David's numbers...that 12% of American born players being African-American is a fair representation of the population...what's interesting about it is that clubhouses are therefore [for the most part] integrated in a way that the rest of the country generally is not. It's integration that tends to result in people learning to accept, appreciate and develop friendships with other races and cultures.

All that doesn't necessarily translate to the front office, though...or scouts, or the media. But I'd guess that players, coaches, and managers at least are [for the most part] rather a bit more colorblind than the most of rest of the country.

Posted by: Dave S. at August 24, 2005 12:08 PM

Milton Bradley loves to hear himself talk. Remember when he was in Cleveland and he was pulled over for speeding? He tore up the ticket or something and drove off. He thinks he is above reproach.

Jeff Kent obviously lectured him about hustle. Or rather, Bradley's LACK of hustle. The only person making this about race is Bradley. I honestly think HE is the racist.

Posted by: Kristofer T. at August 24, 2005 12:47 PM

Also, 50.9% of the U.S. population is female, so where are the chicks in baseball??? I can't believe that not even one woman has the ability/desire to crack the low minor leagues.

Posted by: The Roto Authority at August 24, 2005 01:52 PM

I think part of the thing with American blacks in baseball is that there was a period around the 70s or so when many of the prominent names in baseball were black. I don't have the figures, but I understand that the number of American blacks in baseball reached a peak then --- yes, they were overrepresented --- but now they've declined to a figure more in line with their representation in the population. (Technically, to compare like with like, we should look at what portion of the native-born US population is black, not just the population as a whole.)

Anyway, I like Bradley, though he is a hothead. I think he's shown a lot of growth since last year when he threw a big tantrum and then issued what looked like the most sincere apology I've seen an athlete give about going to counseling for his anger management issues.

Posted by: Adam Villani at August 24, 2005 02:06 PM

I Like MB too...he's an excellent player, and I also think he showed a lot of maturity in his apology last year. [I think David is referring to native born percentages.]

I also have a bit more tolerance for African-Americans who are overly sensitive to what they perceive to be race issues. I've been with African-American friends and seen some pretty outrageous treatment of them by whites...the kind of stuff that you can't really believe. For example, I went to a restaurant with a friend of mine, and the waiter first "forgot" his drink, then his food came out well after everyone else's AND they got his order wrong. Then the waiter told him not to be so "uppity" when my friend politely asked for the correct order. I was slack-jawed in astonishment, but my friend assured me that it was pretty commonplace for him. [We would have left, except it was a corporate function, and I'm pretty sure I'm the only person other than my friend who saw it happen. I still can't really believe it.]

That said, MB's ire is probably misplaced...Kent may generally be an a**, but I don't think he's a racist, certainly based on his relationships with the likes of Baker, Carter and Winfield. I'd imagine that there's just a lot of frustration in the Dodger clubhouse these days, and that MB is lashing out because of a chip he has [maybe justifiably] on his shoulder about being African-American.

Posted by: Dave S. at August 24, 2005 02:46 PM

I guess not "justifiably" but rather understandably.

Posted by: Dave S. at August 24, 2005 02:48 PM

I believe there was one woman who pitched for an independent league team not too long ago.

You're not going to see a woman pitch for an MLB-club affiliated league because those teams are all about grooming prospects. It's possible a woman could do a LOOGY role, or a one inning middle-relief/closer role, but baseball is highly traditional and she'd have to be extremely exceptional to even get a look-see.

Posted by: rbj at August 24, 2005 03:16 PM

"I guess not "justifiably" but rather understandably"

BULL- HONKEY.

It's not understandable to accuse someone else of racism. Kent questioned his lack of hustle. Watch the game tapes, Bradley was not giving his all. MB took offense that someone called him out.

Kent could have made the shot in the Media, instead he went MAN TO MAN. MB is the one playing games in the media, and now he has all but stapled a white hood onto Kent's locker.

it's more BS from MB.

Posted by: Kristofer T. at August 24, 2005 03:33 PM

Your mistake on the groups is comparing them to present day populations the real comparison is percent of those aged 0-15 20 years ago. Due to Blacks lower fertility rate you expect the numbers to go down.

Posted by: Mike at August 24, 2005 05:53 PM

YEAH

where are all the chicks in baseball???!!!

i see these 6'2" 240 lb chicks playing basketball

they should be out there hitting HR!!!!!!

and pitching 95MPH FB!!!

GO GO CHICKS!!!!

Posted by: lisa gray at August 25, 2005 08:26 PM
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